pcsoft.us.windevCopyright 2026, PC SOFT9 Oct 2016 07:04:00 Z7 Oct 2016 12:05:00 ZHi all, I was rather enthusiastic to hear that Windev will -- at last! -- have internal procedures within procedures. After all, I had used them extensively in my good old Clarion Professional Developer days. In CPD they were called Routines. With Windev I have been forced to do without it them, which has made coding more difficult, slower and uglier. The Internal procedure was one of the major "killer features", that urged me to "upgrade" from WD19. Now I have tried to use them a few of times, and it has been very disappointing. The worst thing is that in the internal procedure you cannot use the parameters given to the main procedure! And this makes the internal procedures practically useless. And when I combine to this the general worse quality and instability I have experienced with WD21, I feel that I have been badly cheated by PCSoft. My money was good, but their product is [beep]. Best regards Ola30WEBDEVen_UShttps://forum.pcsoft.fr/es-ES/pcsoft.us.windev/59855-wd21-internal-procedures-very-disappointing/read.awpmoderateur@pcsoft.fr (El moderador)webmaster@pcsoft.fr (El webmaster)guestpcsoft.us.windevhttps://forum.pcsoft.fr/es-ES/pcsoft.us.windev/59855-wd21-internal-procedures-very-disappointing-59893/read.awp9 Oct 2016 07:04:00 ZI have gone through several testing loops to make my project more stable. I have removed internal procedures. I have added d…https://forum.pcsoft.fr/es-ES/pcsoft.us.windev/59855-wd21-internal-procedures-very-disappointing-59893/read.awphttps://forum.pcsoft.fr/es-ES/pcsoft.us.windev/59855-wd21-internal-procedures-very-disappointing-59893/read.awp[WD21] Internal procedures - very disappointing!guestpcsoft.us.windevhttps://forum.pcsoft.fr/es-ES/pcsoft.us.windev/59855-wd21-internal-procedures-very-disappointing-59891/read.awp8 Oct 2016 19:51:00 ZExcept when Windows throws a GFE, the error message I am getting is shown below. The line of code causing this error is: API(US…https://forum.pcsoft.fr/es-ES/pcsoft.us.windev/59855-wd21-internal-procedures-very-disappointing-59891/read.awphttps://forum.pcsoft.fr/es-ES/pcsoft.us.windev/59855-wd21-internal-procedures-very-disappointing-59891/read.awp[WD21] Internal procedures - very disappointing!guestpcsoft.us.windevhttps://forum.pcsoft.fr/es-ES/pcsoft.us.windev/59855-wd21-internal-procedures-very-disappointing-59888/read.awp8 Oct 2016 18:43:00 ZI solved most of my problems by removing the Internal Procedures. I was not passing parameters, just moving sections of code int…https://forum.pcsoft.fr/es-ES/pcsoft.us.windev/59855-wd21-internal-procedures-very-disappointing-59888/read.awphttps://forum.pcsoft.fr/es-ES/pcsoft.us.windev/59855-wd21-internal-procedures-very-disappointing-59888/read.awp[WD21] Internal procedures - very disappointing!guestpcsoft.us.windevhttps://forum.pcsoft.fr/es-ES/pcsoft.us.windev/59855-wd21-internal-procedures-very-disappointing-59887/read.awp8 Oct 2016 17:53:00 ZHi Donald, to me this smells like a) a "memory leak" or b) a non-threaded and thus unprotected re-calling of a procedure in too…https://forum.pcsoft.fr/es-ES/pcsoft.us.windev/59855-wd21-internal-procedures-very-disappointing-59887/read.awphttps://forum.pcsoft.fr/es-ES/pcsoft.us.windev/59855-wd21-internal-procedures-very-disappointing-59887/read.awp[WD21] Internal procedures - very disappointing!guestpcsoft.us.windevhttps://forum.pcsoft.fr/es-ES/pcsoft.us.windev/59855-wd21-internal-procedures-very-disappointing-59886/read.awp8 Oct 2016 16:17:00 ZHi DerekT Yes, there are always ways to get done what needs to be done, but in this case they again are just workarounds, jus…https://forum.pcsoft.fr/es-ES/pcsoft.us.windev/59855-wd21-internal-procedures-very-disappointing-59886/read.awphttps://forum.pcsoft.fr/es-ES/pcsoft.us.windev/59855-wd21-internal-procedures-very-disappointing-59886/read.awp[WD21] Internal procedures - very disappointing!guestpcsoft.us.windevhttps://forum.pcsoft.fr/es-ES/pcsoft.us.windev/59855-wd21-internal-procedures-very-disappointing-59884/read.awp8 Oct 2016 13:37:00 ZOla Had not noticed this - just tried and found that what you say here is correct. The issue however is always going to depe…https://forum.pcsoft.fr/es-ES/pcsoft.us.windev/59855-wd21-internal-procedures-very-disappointing-59884/read.awphttps://forum.pcsoft.fr/es-ES/pcsoft.us.windev/59855-wd21-internal-procedures-very-disappointing-59884/read.awp[WD21] Internal procedures - very disappointing!guestpcsoft.us.windevhttps://forum.pcsoft.fr/es-ES/pcsoft.us.windev/59855-wd21-internal-procedures-very-disappointing-59882/read.awp8 Oct 2016 10:57:00 ZHi all The problem is the parameters given to the (main) procedure by reference. The (main) procedure's parameters cannot be …https://forum.pcsoft.fr/es-ES/pcsoft.us.windev/59855-wd21-internal-procedures-very-disappointing-59882/read.awphttps://forum.pcsoft.fr/es-ES/pcsoft.us.windev/59855-wd21-internal-procedures-very-disappointing-59882/read.awp[WD21] Internal procedures - very disappointing!guestpcsoft.us.windevhttps://forum.pcsoft.fr/es-ES/pcsoft.us.windev/59855-wd21-internal-procedures-very-disappointing-59879/read.awp8 Oct 2016 02:33:00 ZI am in the process of removing internal procedures. I have code that has worked fine for months. I have moved some code blocks …https://forum.pcsoft.fr/es-ES/pcsoft.us.windev/59855-wd21-internal-procedures-very-disappointing-59879/read.awphttps://forum.pcsoft.fr/es-ES/pcsoft.us.windev/59855-wd21-internal-procedures-very-disappointing-59879/read.awp[WD21] Internal procedures - very disappointing!guestpcsoft.us.windevhttps://forum.pcsoft.fr/es-ES/pcsoft.us.windev/59855-wd21-internal-procedures-very-disappointing-59878/read.awp8 Oct 2016 00:32:00 ZInternal Procedures work great for me too. Post some code so we can see where your problem lies...https://forum.pcsoft.fr/es-ES/pcsoft.us.windev/59855-wd21-internal-procedures-very-disappointing-59878/read.awphttps://forum.pcsoft.fr/es-ES/pcsoft.us.windev/59855-wd21-internal-procedures-very-disappointing-59878/read.awp[WD21] Internal procedures - very disappointing!guestpcsoft.us.windevhttps://forum.pcsoft.fr/es-ES/pcsoft.us.windev/59855-wd21-internal-procedures-very-disappointing-59865/read.awp7 Oct 2016 16:25:00 ZHi, I also use internal procedures without a problem !! Could you give us example code of what you are trying to do ? Dan…https://forum.pcsoft.fr/es-ES/pcsoft.us.windev/59855-wd21-internal-procedures-very-disappointing-59865/read.awphttps://forum.pcsoft.fr/es-ES/pcsoft.us.windev/59855-wd21-internal-procedures-very-disappointing-59865/read.awp[WD21] Internal procedures - very disappointing!guestpcsoft.us.windevhttps://forum.pcsoft.fr/es-ES/pcsoft.us.windev/59855-wd21-internal-procedures-very-disappointing-59863/read.awp7 Oct 2016 15:12:00 ZI don't understand what are you talking about. I use internal procedures and I didn't have problems with them. The internal proc…https://forum.pcsoft.fr/es-ES/pcsoft.us.windev/59855-wd21-internal-procedures-very-disappointing-59863/read.awphttps://forum.pcsoft.fr/es-ES/pcsoft.us.windev/59855-wd21-internal-procedures-very-disappointing-59863/read.awp[WD21] Internal procedures - very disappointing!