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| Débuté par Raimund Schuldhaus, 23 déc. 2004 09:37 - 11 réponses |
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Posté le 23 décembre 2004 - 09:37 |
The final version of WinDev 9, WinDev 9 Mobile and WebDev 9 is available on PC SOFT's web site. The "Télécharger" page says still preversion from 03/12/2004, but the download page beneath is the final from 22/12/2004.
A nice Christmas gift.
Raimund
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Posté le 23 décembre 2004 - 12:26 |
The final version of WinDev 9, WinDev 9 Mobile and WebDev 9 is available on PC SOFT's web site. The "Télécharger" page says still preversion from 03/12/2004, but the download page beneath is the final from 22/12/2004.
A nice Christmas gift.
Raimund
So, the US version will be announced in march 2005???
I wish you all a blessed Christmas and a very good 2005 in health, business and so on.
Regards, Teun.
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Posté le 23 décembre 2004 - 23:22 |
Hello Teun,
no, I don't believe/expect that. Look at the past announce/delivery dates. The time frame between the French and the English version is less with every new build. I expect a 3-4 month delay for the English version. I think end of March beginning of April is realistic. But that's only my opinion.
Raimund
BTW: I work now since 1 week with WinDev 9 pre-version and I miss now some of the new features in the productiv WinDev 8 version.
So, the US version will be announced in march 2005???
I wish you all a blessed Christmas and a very good 2005 in health, business and so on.
Regards, Teun.
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Posté le 24 décembre 2004 - 01:13 |
Hello Raimund,
What do you mis??
regards ,
Frans.
Hello Teun, no, I don't believe/expect that. Look at the past announce/delivery dates. The time frame between the French and the English version is less with every new build. I expect a 3-4 month delay for the English version. I think end of March beginning of April is realistic. But that's only my opinion. Raimund BTW: I work now since 1 week with WinDev 9 pre-version and I miss now some of the new features in the productiv WinDev 8 version. So, the US version will be announced in march 2005???
I wish you all a blessed Christmas and a very good 2005 in health, business and so on.
Regards, Teun. |
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Posté le 24 décembre 2004 - 10:07 |
I think : In V9 there will be a lot of new features (see also what Günter showed at this forum). When you then go back to the previous version V8 you know that PCSOFT has made another big step forward and then you (and Raimund) miss all these possibilies. So, I hope we can soon order V9US.
Kind regards, Teun
Hello Raimund, What do you mis?? regards , Frans. Hello Teun, no, I don't believe/expect that. Look at the past announce/delivery dates. The time frame between the French and the English version is less with every new build. I expect a 3-4 month delay for the English version. I think end of March beginning of April is realistic. But that's only my opinion. Raimund BTW: I work now since 1 week with WinDev 9 pre-version and I miss now some of the new features in the productiv WinDev 8 version. So, the US version will be announced in march 2005???
I wish you all a blessed Christmas and a very good 2005 in health, business and so on.
Regards, Teun.
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Posté le 24 décembre 2004 - 11:46 |
My 2 cents: WinDev 9 is a big step forward again, indeed.
Sitting at the core of WD9 there is the already stable 32-bit engine of WD8. WD9 comes with a fully integrated Client/Server database engine! Free to distribute to as many customers as you want. Better than integrating some freeware database with unkown side-effects, isn't it? Even better, those well-known H-commands can still be used! I'm in the process to test the new window-in-window technology of WD9. It seems to be a great step forward in regards to user interface. Together with the surprisingly well-working capability of resizing WinDev-windows, this one should point to new horizons ... The code editor has been improved too - it has collapsible functions. Reading and understanding complicated programs is much easier now. WD9 offers a menu entry to edit one's own *.mdl files. I had no chance to look into the details of the how-to of this item, but it seems, that PC Soft offers to write your own templates now. Did not see a programming guide yet or any instruction of how!
to use such an mdl-file during RAD, but it seems to be a good start.
This sets WD9 apart from its competitors in the same league. Reminder: WinDev is a 4GL with absolutely royalty-free distribution of the executables. Yes, we pay a price for that but its rather low: We have to upgrade each year and spend 400 - 600 Euros, depending on version. Other 4GL-vendors are asking this price as a runtime for just one program deployed. Selling 100 WinDev-programs per year makes a mere 4-6 Euros 'virtual runtime', even better: this virtual runtime comes with substancial improvements of the tool - each year! So, looking at it from this side, I'm satisfied with WinDev and PC Soft at a 150% level.
Putting on another cap with the front inscription 'Programmer' and 'ERP specialist' on the back of it, I have a long wish-list, of course. But that's another story ...
Nice Christmas and a Happy New Year!
Guenter
I think : In V9 there will be a lot of new features (see also what Günter showed at this forum). When you then go back to the previous version V8 you know that PCSOFT has made another big step forward and then you (and Raimund) miss all these possibilies. So, I hope we can soon order V9US. Kind regards, Teun Hello Raimund, What do you mis?? regards , Frans. Hello Teun, no, I don't believe/expect that. Look at the past announce/delivery dates. The time frame between the French and the English version is less with every new build. I expect a 3-4 month delay for the English version. I think end of March beginning of April is realistic. But that's only my opinion. Raimund BTW: I work now since 1 week with WinDev 9 pre-version and I miss now some of the new features in the productiv WinDev 8 version. So, the US version will be announced in march 2005???
I wish you all a blessed Christmas and a very good 2005 in health, business and so on.
Regards, Teun. |
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Posté le 24 décembre 2004 - 14:38 |
Hello Frans,
for example, in WinDev 9 there is a new assistant for correct resizing. After opening a window this assistant shows in the top right edge a summary of resizing inconsistency. You can then click on this summary and see which control and why there is such an inconsistency. Very helpful.
For me, the new "centre de ..." are very promising.
Hello Raimund, What do you mis?? regards , Frans. Hello Teun, no, I don't believe/expect that. Look at the past announce/delivery dates. The time frame between the French and the English version is less with every new build. I expect a 3-4 month delay for the English version. I think end of March beginning of April is realistic. But that's only my opinion. Raimund BTW: I work now since 1 week with WinDev 9 pre-version and I miss now some of the new features in the productiv WinDev 8 version. So, the US version will be announced in march 2005???
I wish you all a blessed Christmas and a very good 2005 in health, business and so on.
Regards, Teun.
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Posté le 25 décembre 2004 - 10:22 |
... regarding the window-in-window technology.
Could anyone of you tell me about the advantages of the new window-in-window technology? I THOUGHT it would be a great thing, replacing the planes technology (max 99!) and enable us to assemble an unlimited number of sub-windows which could be moved into a main window. What I found leaves me a bit puzzled. These sub-windows have to be placed on a plane - or on plane 0 of a main window. They are initialized separately from the main window, that's true. They resize like any other control. They are called a 'control' and are handled like one. They cannot exist without the main window, i.e. they do not appear in the window-list of the project. So, what's the advantage?
Thanks for any hints!
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Posté le 25 décembre 2004 - 12:05 |
Hi Günter,
Reusability and centralisation of logic is the key feature here...
You create e.g.:
- an internal filter or search and select window which you re-use in any of your other windows on a seperate tab page or plane
- an internal window that displays all stock locations and stock quantities which you will be re-using in many parts of your application on e.g. a seperate tab page of the 'Order', 'Product' or 'Inventory' windows
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Now, here's the big advantage:
Whenever you change the internal window with new features or do a bug fix on it, it is automatically propagated throughout your complete application. Write once, re-use infinitely and maintain in one location.
This is a huge advantage bringing down application complexity.
Cheers,
Peter |
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Posté le 25 décembre 2004 - 12:34 |
Hello Guener,
since WinDev 8 we have 999 plane in a window. There are some shortcomings regarding the 999-planes:
a) You can't select a plane above 99 in the 7-plane window (this regression is still in WinDev 9)
b) A modfication for a control above 99 (within the 7-plane window) resets the plane for this control to 0 (this regression is still in WinDev 9). That means that you can place controls on planes above 99 and manage the planes using PageUp, PageDown and/or the plane enter facility in the bottom right edge. But don't use the 7-plane window to modify it.
The advantage of the window-in-window is that you have only one definintion and logic of your window and you can now use this window in more than one place. You can place it on a plane of an another window or if you want it on a standalone window you can place it on an empty window.
Regards
Raimund
... regarding the window-in-window technology.
Could anyone of you tell me about the advantages of the new window-in-window technology? I THOUGHT it would be a great thing, replacing the planes technology (max 99!) and enable us to assemble an unlimited number of sub-windows which could be moved into a main window. What I found leaves me a bit puzzled. These sub-windows have to be placed on a plane - or on plane 0 of a main window. They are initialized separately from the main window, that's true. They resize like any other control. They are called a 'control' and are handled like one. They cannot exist without the main window, i.e. they do not appear in the window-list of the project. So, what's the advantage?
Thanks for any hints!
Guenter
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Posté le 25 décembre 2004 - 13:00 |
Thanks to Peter and Raimund! Now I can understand! In fact, I expected something different ...
Kind regards,
Guenter
Hi Günter,
Reusability and centralisation of logic is the key feature here...
You create e.g.:
- an internal filter or search and select window which you re-use in any of your other windows on a seperate tab page or plane
- an internal window that displays all stock locations and stock quantities which you will be re-using in many parts of your application on e.g. a seperate tab page of the 'Order', 'Product' or 'Inventory' windows
- ...
Now, here's the big advantage:
Whenever you change the internal window with new features or do a bug fix on it, it is automatically propagated throughout your complete application. Write once, re-use infinitely and maintain in one location.
This is a huge advantage bringing down application complexity.
Cheers,
Peter |
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Posté le 25 décembre 2004 - 16:38 |
Thanks for all the explanations.
I am realy looking forward to the new Windev 9.
Regards Frans |
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