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| Débuté par RB, 11 oct. 2005 18:51 - 5 réponses |
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Posté le 11 octobre 2005 - 18:51 |
As you noticed, WD10(fr) is announced the end of the year.
The main evolutions we saw are that WD9 new things are going further and becomes more native.
WD9 came out (sorry it is passed for us), more the with C/S, with a big list of extra modules called control centers. Those modules were thought to enforce projects and production administration :
This time, no great new technology comes. But all disparate things are merging into confirmation. In fact the job surely went on the tool heart to make this possible.
Just some infos :
- The user repports&querries tool will now be free of charge.
- clic enabled on repports fields (in preview)
- comments in SQL querries, and part querries re-usable.
- files structures generation from windows
- graphics over graphics
- java component in WinDev for internet
- Impact analysis (for modifications)
- repeated zone in WinDev (from Webdev)
- USB ports usable
- CD burning
- WinDev components debugging
extra : 64bits and double hearts processors supported
and best : the "GDS" a Control center to administrate the projects sources.
Application : versionning, un-connected developpers can join a project etc etc.
Conclusion : PCSoft worked fast and, as we noticed, listened the users (see TS, NG and forums) to answer their needs.
Regards
R&B
WDForge.org |
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Posté le 12 octobre 2005 - 00:45 |
As you noticed, WD10(fr) is announced the end of the year.
The main evolutions we saw are that WD9 new things are going further and becomes more native.
WD9 came out (sorry it is passed for us), more the with C/S, with a big list of extra modules called control centers. Those modules were thought to enforce projects and production administration :
This time, no great new technology comes. But all disparate things are merging into confirmation. In fact the job surely went on the tool heart to make this possible.
Just some infos :
- The user repports&querries tool will now be free of charge.
- clic enabled on repports fields (in preview)
- comments in SQL querries, and part querries re-usable.
- files structures generation from windows
- graphics over graphics
- java component in WinDev for internet
- Impact analysis (for modifications)
- repeated zone in WinDev (from Webdev)
- USB ports usable
- CD burning
- WinDev components debugging
extra : 64bits and double hearts processors supported
and best : the "GDS" a Control center to administrate the projects sources.
Application : versionning, un-connected developpers can join a project etc etc.
Conclusion : PCSoft worked fast and, as we noticed, listened the users (see TS, NG and forums) to answer their needs.
Regards
R&B
Hi All of You,
Agree with the above.
As there are in total 151 new features, (= not a final list),
and as I read the brochure yesterday, I'd like to share a number of the new features, I, personally, found (very) interesting:
From the above mentioned I appreciate especially the "Repeated Zone"-feature. Now, at last in Windev too.
The "repeated zone", is the "top-row" of a table,
memory or file connected, whereby several (kind of) fields can be below, above or next to each other (all somewehere) in the top row.
Actually that row has to be seen, as an "area". You fill in just as you like "top-bottom" and "left-right" with, all kinds, of control-types.
Other new features I like:
()Execution and development speed will be drastically increased.
Just a recompilation and re-installation in WD10 of a WD9 project will result in a speed-increase of around 30%. Especially on the Queries-side where sometimes a 10-fold increase can be expected.
Nothing to code for that. Just open the WD9-project, re-compile and re-install.
()Applications developped with Groupware can avoid "login" using LDAP of windows (a Windows protocol to interrogate a windows Server wheather a user is already known Y/N and with what user-attributes.
So an additional Windev-login can be avoided.
()Regarding Version Control, a very vast area now, also "Analyses", "Data models" of 2 different projects can now be "compared" too.
This GDS (=Gestion de Sources: Sources Management System) goes very, very far. Extremely far.
Appearently some large development houses (in France?) really insisted on this.
Really very impressive what can be controlled now on applications being developped by a "group of developpers", on-line connected or even off-line.
Also "merge" of code and objects is now possible...
()Automatic clean, (on request,) of your development-maps.
Older obsolete files are eliminated into archive-maps.(just in case)
()Also RID (versus RAD) exists now. RID = Rapid graphical Interface Design.
Basically at does the same as the RAD, but a bit less. Ie it creates all the windows from the Data Model, but does NOT include code into the generated windows. So, just the "Graphical Interface" is generated.
()The function "Input box". It allows you to allow a user to enter an "answer" into controlfield in a window. The window pops up whn asked and consists of juist one input-control. It avoids you to build a little Windev-window with that one control and usually some buttons on it.
()Refactoring code: Simply select a number of code-lines.
Do a right clic and save as a Global or Local Procedure.
()On the combo-control-site the end-user gets much more friendly combo's, more spacious etc. The choice-List of a combo, can automatically become a "Listview".
()Earlier by end-user inputted values (in edit controls) can be "memorised", for ever... So during input system "guesses" the possible (same) input.
()End-user can now ask to show or not Totals/Average totals on tables.
()Nice for the environment-feeling of a typical end-user:
All (your) windows in the background,
the mother-windows, now not in focus, are automatically "greyed"...
()A lot of additional "automatic" help, during coding, developping.
But now these help-things can also be "stopped", item bu item, not anymore alone on a "general" basis.
()For You the Anglos: Date formats now go with the language-code used within the execution of a project. So you can have automatically get date-layouts like "MM-DD-YYYY", because your user executes your project in English...
()Instruction-set "FOR ALL..." can now work on tables
(memory or file connected) too.
()For those who work with files, fields in classes and members, rather then with the file.field notation. And therefore work in "layers" (UserInterface-, Processing- and Database-layer), 2 new Instructions "FileToMemory" and "MemoryToFile" exist now.
()HF Client Server supports now Transactions and Journalling.
And "Integrity" checks are now performed by the HF-Server.
()Errorhandling, Chrono-handling, Timers: coding made a lot easier for us.
()Possibility to enter a list of "prefixes" for all your kind of fields,variables, fields you use.
So if you did that for yourself as a good habit before, variable-naming in your coding can now be controlled by Windev.
Ex. One might code/work the following cnaming-convention:
A boolean-name for a local variable will always by "lbName" is boolean.
A local string "lsName" is string.
A local integer would be "liName" is int.
You can specify to windev to use the prefixes "lb" for the local booleans, "ls" for the local strings, "li" for the local integers etc.
This makes reading/understanding your code afterwards a lot easier.
()Windev Mobile: Windows CE version 5, RFID, SQL-Server-access, XML
and "ARMv4T"-processors supported.
()Also a bunch of new features for Webdev.
Too much to start to describe. Not so much my interest.
At first appearance one might think "again" more monney to pay,
and after one year only. But after reading about the massive amount
of new interesting features, really whortwhile, I think.
Upgrade price (only Windev9 -> Windev10) will be 399 euro in Europe,
when ordered before 31/12/2005.
For someone who upgrades the 3 products (WD, WM and WB): 899 Euro
And, a usual, all WD9-products eventually "bought" after 10 sept 2005
get free exchange to the correspondent WD10.
Now, I understand the frustration of the Anglo-Sax-people.
It is not nice to have to wait so long for a final (previous) release
and at the same moment to see the next one (in French) already to see "announced".
But let us still agree on this:
Windev has always been really impressive, reliable and durable.
Also in the English-version. Even 5.5 was "really" good in his time!
And it has been improving and growing with incredible strong features, possibilities + performances.
Remaining a "state-of-the-art-product" as we hoped and expect it to stay.
Al of that may cost a bit. No?
Just look for a (short) while to the "other side" and "compare"
seriously with what you can get, buy and use from there...
And compare the "efforts to spend" in order to produce
reliable + nice applications too!
I am Happy!
Lieven De Nys.
Member of the Dutch-speaking Benelux Windev-developpersgroup. |
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Posté le 12 octobre 2005 - 12:50 |
Hello,
my hit list after the first reading of the WinDev 10 brochure:
002 and 003 : WDETAT U (not because of the cost, but WDETAT U will be always available when a new WD is there)
024 : Version control system over internet
099 : Automatic prefixes
100 and 101 : Debugger
Regards
Raimund
As you noticed, WD10(fr) is announced the end of the year.
The main evolutions we saw are that WD9 new things are going further and becomes more native.
WD9 came out (sorry it is passed for us), more the with C/S, with a big list of extra modules called control centers. Those modules were thought to enforce projects and production administration :
This time, no great new technology comes. But all disparate things are merging into confirmation. In fact the job surely went on the tool heart to make this possible.
Just some infos :
- The user repports&querries tool will now be free of charge.
- clic enabled on repports fields (in preview)
- comments in SQL querries, and part querries re-usable.
- files structures generation from windows
- graphics over graphics
- java component in WinDev for internet
- Impact analysis (for modifications)
- repeated zone in WinDev (from Webdev)
- USB ports usable
- CD burning
- WinDev components debugging
extra : 64bits and double hearts processors supported
and best : the "GDS" a Control center to administrate the projects sources.
Application : versionning, un-connected developpers can join a project etc etc.
Conclusion : PCSoft worked fast and, as we noticed, listened the users (see TS, NG and forums) to answer their needs.
Regards
R&B
http://www.invitec.com |
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Posté le 12 octobre 2005 - 15:11 |
Does anyone know if version 10 will handle .net components ?
joe crevino |
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Posté le 12 octobre 2005 - 16:12 |
Does anyone know if version 10 will handle .net components ?
joe crevino
Joe
No need to wait to version 10 - version 9 supposedly handles .NET components. This is something I've been looking into a little lately but I am lacking in the .NET department.
WinDev 9 allows you to incorporate external .NET components in your application.WD9 also allows you to create .NET components. To quote from the Help file: These .NET components are produced directly from WinDev classes (with all the advantages of the code editor,...)
What has interested me is that WD9 also claims to be able to produce .NET applications. This sounded great - you produce a small .EXE which utilises all the functionality of .NET. However I tried this recently with a friend who works professionally with .NET and we found that while the .EXE produced was small, you still had to provide all the standard .DLLs. Apparently it's acceptable to do this with .NET - your main executable fits with the .NET standard and methodology and you can then have non-compliant stuff in accompanying .DLLs. However in this case, I don't understand what advantage WinDev provides by producing a supposedly .NET application.
Don't know whether this helps or not. Like many, I'm still learning.
Chris L
Melbourne, Oz |
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Posté le 12 octobre 2005 - 16:41 |
this came from pcsoft
Dear Sir,
Unfortunately, it is not possible to insert a .NET control in a WinDev
window.
Best regards,
Patrick Philipot. |
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