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| Publicado el 12,julio 2017 - 10:40 |
Hi to all
I try to make simple Dynamic project (one simple table and one form with table control)
and deploy it on WEB. I make this web project.
1. What I need to do ? How to generate and prepare for the WEB ?
2. Only PC SOFT web server is possible ?
3. Is there some video or explanation of this situation ?
How to control data, connection and so on, on the server. Database need to be on some local network accessible from internet. (Like Catalog with prices, quantity or similar) and presented on web pages.
I try to understand this situation but help is very complicated for me.
I know that PHP and static can be deployed from webdev, but it is not situation with webdev dynamic pages with hfsql C/S. 
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| Publicado el 12,julio 2017 - 13:31 |
Hi
1. First you need to decide WHERE you want to deploy:
- your own server (or a rented dedicated server): you need to buy the webdev application server from PCSoft and install it on your server, along with HFSQL
- a hosted dedicated webdev server, or a hosted shared webdev server that yo can rent at any of the listed webdev hosting provider listed on pcsoft web site (rent, then follow the instruction they sent)
- pcsoft "cloud" (rent, then follow the instruction they sent)
Then, you'll use the deployment mechanism provided in Webdev, with the settings provided by you, the hosting provider or pcsoft.
2. no, as stated above
3. Yes, in the help, as usual.
Deployment is very simple, just follow the wizard (once you have all the settings sent by your hosting provider)
Best regards |
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| Publicado el 12,julio 2017 - 13:41 |
Hi
Best things to do ( in my opinion)
You Need the application server and yes only the application server of PCSoft can be used.
I know that is a pity but It is the way it is. ( if one could use for instance glassfish or any other java app server then it would be a lot easier to get a web app installed at a big company )
- Host the site at pcsoft ( the provide cloud services )
- Get your own vps and buy the application server and install the app server on the vps
- Find some other hosting party that provide the app server
I did the second one. Because it gives you all the flexibility you need now and maybe in the future. It is basically the same as having your own server. (Cool thing is for instance building a windev app that does something that is not possible with webdev )
To install the app server pic windows . But I have recently heard on this forum that Linux can be used as well. Still I would take windows . Installing everything is a snap.
Video – surch for uncle pete corner. The man called Pete has a great website. As well . Very useful. Just google this.
Handling data from a local db is an other story. There are lots of ways to get that data . Good , bad and very ugly . I suggest take a look at that ones you get your way in using webdev.
Hope this helps
Regards
Allard |
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| Publicado el 12,julio 2017 - 22:27 |
Thank you both for suggestions .
Another questions is one of my interest
1. My private server?
- You mean example: Windows Server OS (2012 or 2016)
- Install IIS
a) create FTP,
b) add users and permissions
c) deploy app_web folder into FTP
d) install Web Application Server from PC SOFT
and maintain web application on my own server
Thank you ! |
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| Publicado el 12,julio 2017 - 23:17 |
Yes, exactly...
Don't forget that your server also has to be accessible from the web (except if its an intranet) and that you need a fast enough internet connection to server comfortably you users.
Which is why, most of the time, you end up renting a dedicated server (which is exactly what you described, but with a VERY fast internet connection, both up and down)
Best regards |
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| Publicado el 13,julio 2017 - 10:02 |
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| Publicado el 13,julio 2017 - 10:34 |
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| Publicado el 16,julio 2017 - 04:59 |
Hi
There are lots of VPS profiders. Some are verry cheep and very good :spos: and some are cheep and bad :sneg:
As Fabrice suggested . They are reacheble over the net via an external desktop connection and that works great. You can do everything . Even reinstalling windows if you want to
so no need for dedicated server anymore.
Nice thing from the good vps profiders is that you can upgrade and instanly get more power ( Often up to 16 GB internal Mem and Hundreds of GB storage)
I have a vps that is very fast. Up down and lots of bandwith. And Hosted in Germany . Nice if you want some privacy :xcool:
So you can do it all yourself or spend a little more and have good support the boxis seems to be quite a good deal if chf is equal to EUR Or Dollar haha ..
Regards
Allard |
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| Publicado el 18,julio 2017 - 11:00 |
Thank you Allard and Fabrice.
I have created FTP Server.
Now on deploy site Webdev ask me for Webdev account. What is it ?
I try with User Name which I use to enter into Webdev. It is not correct.
1. Do I need first install Application Server and make some account on that software or what?
2. I can connect on ftp server from Chrome or similar browsers but can not from webdev
3. Even when I create Installation for FTP (4th option) I need to configure parameters for connection.
Thank you ! |
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| Publicado el 18,julio 2017 - 14:20 |
Hi ICi,
What I do is just create physical media setup on dev machine
Then open the vps and just copy that to the vps
Then on VPS do run the installer
No need to figger out all the settings :spos:
Maybe a bit quick and dirty way of doing things but it works and it is a very fast way
So when updating a site this can be done this way as well . However You then can do with just the changes. I have not figgert out how that exactly works yet;)
regards
Allard |
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| Publicado el 18,julio 2017 - 19:46 |
Allard.
Is that possible only on Server machine or I can test it on dev machine too with FTP server
created. Maybe to mention, I use WB22 to try this.
1. From where you start INSTALL ?
a) From Chrome (FTP://192.168.1.199) can not start. ask to download
b) I was try it from folder (TEMP) which I make for test FTP an get another errors. |
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